{"id":22804,"date":"2024-03-04T05:51:40","date_gmt":"2024-03-04T10:51:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/entertainment\/wanted-writers-for-awards-show-jokes-must-be-skilled-at-diplomacy\/04\/03\/2024\/"},"modified":"2024-03-04T05:51:40","modified_gmt":"2024-03-04T10:51:40","slug":"wanted-writers-for-awards-show-jokes-must-be-skilled-at-diplomacy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/entertainment\/wanted-writers-for-awards-show-jokes-must-be-skilled-at-diplomacy\/04\/03\/2024\/","title":{"rendered":"Wanted: Writers for Awards Show Jokes. Must Be Skilled at Diplomacy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In the middle of struggling through the opening monologue of the Golden Globes in January, the comic Jo Koy did something unusual, if not unprecedented, for the host of a major awards show: He <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/01\/08\/movies\/jo-koy-golden-globes-criticism.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">blamed the writers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI wrote some of these \u2014 and they\u2019re the ones you\u2019re laughing at,\u201d he said of his jokes, prompting writers across the country to grind their teeth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Koy, who later <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/jo-koy-goes-on-apology-tour-to-clean-up-golden-globes-disaster\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">apologized<\/a>, endured some light mockery a week after the show, when his ex-girlfriend Chelsea Handler followed up a successful joke in her monologue at the Critics Choice Awards by saying, \u201cThank you for laughing at that. My writers wrote it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">If something positive came from this episode, it\u2019s that a spotlight was put on a corner of the showbiz work force that tends to remain in the shadows: the joke writers for awards shows like the Oscars on Sunday.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s a small fraternity, and they always remained anonymous,\u201d said Bruce Vilanch, the best known of this breed, who said his acclaim for the job, which included starring in the 1999 documentary \u201c<a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.nytimes.com\/www.nytimes.com\/library\/film\/091799bruce-film-review.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Get Bruce!<\/a>,\u201d had spurred <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/2012\/02\/oscar-writer-buz-kohan-presenter-jokes.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">resentment<\/a> among his predecessors. \u201cThey were not personalities in their own way. They never talked about this stuff. I think there was almost a code.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Indeed, two of the three veterans who wrote jokes for the Golden Globes monologue declined to comment for this article, and a third didn\u2019t respond to a request. While the hosts get all the attention, the writers do work that is less understood and equally tricky, requiring skill, self-awareness and even diplomacy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Not only do writers not get much credit if things go well, they also don\u2019t always get to attend. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.emmys.com\/bios\/megan-amram\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Megan Amram<\/a> wrote for the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=82fIpQjOxmc\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">disastrous host pair James Franco and Anne Hathaway<\/a> at the 2011 Oscars and didn\u2019t get a ticket to the ceremony. \u201cJames and Anne didn\u2019t have the same, let\u2019s say, creative taste,\u201d she told me, using the kind of careful language you hear from this class of writers to describe the challenges they face. Those include the balancing act of finding jokes that will kill both in the room and on television, for audiences of vastly diverse demographics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Amram, who later wrote for the host Jimmy Kimmel at the 2018 Academy Awards, likens writing jokes for the Oscars to giving a best man\u2019s speech at the world\u2019s biggest wedding. \u201cYou want it to be a little bit edgy, but not so much that it turns off the grandparents.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Inside the ceremonies, the audiences are tough: self-conscious, nervous and, as the night unfolds and more of them lose, in a souring mood. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hbo.com\/assume-the-position-with-mr-wuhl\/season-1\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Robert Wuhl,<\/a> a comic and actor who wrote for Billy Crystal when he hosted the Oscars, thinks that there shouldn\u2019t even be comedy bits after the monologue. \u201cIt stops the show cold,\u201d he said. \u201cIt\u2019s not our show. Do the first eight to 10 minutes and get out of the way. It\u2019s already too long.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Kimmel, who is back as host of the Oscars on Sunday, benefits from bringing his late-night staff, which knows his voice. There are generally two sets of awards show writers: those who work for the host and those who write for the presenters and others on the show, and the two teams rarely intermingle. Compared with the Globes, which used three writers for the host and five overall, there is a small army for the Academy Awards on Sunday \u2014 about two dozen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">One of them, the comic <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/jessejoyce.com\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jesse Joyce<\/a>, said he once wrote an entire Tonys monologue for Kevin Spacey by himself despite never seeing a single show on Broadway that year. He said awards show bits demand a more formal style. In late night or standup, he explained, you gum up the language to make it seem conversational. \u201cThere\u2019s a polish to award show jokes,\u201d he added. \u201cI think it\u2019s a better showcase for sharp, precise jokes, so I kind of admire it on a clinical skill level.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">If writing for hosts can feel like an abstract exercise in joke construction, working for presenters is all about navigating real-world chaos.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/movies\/la-ca-cm-tony-dave-boone20180610-story.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dave Boone<\/a>, who has won three Emmys and has worked on 120 shows since 1998, spoke nostalgically of the days when the producer <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/interviews.televisionacademy.com\/interviews\/buz-kohan\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Buz Kohan<\/a>, maybe the most storied figure among these writers, would call Gregory Peck or Sophia Loren and knock out a few amusing lines.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Now nearly every joke goes through a battalion of publicists, managers, even spouses. Some stars ask for bits but then never do them. Others agree but get cold feet at the last moment. Then there are the ones who insist on ad-libbing \u2014 and blame the writers on air when their jokes don\u2019t land.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWhat\u2019s sometimes frustrating is when you get a note from a talent manager who says, \u2018We don\u2019t want to mention the superhero movie, and he doesn\u2019t want to be funny,\u2019\u201d Boone said. \u201cAnd then the talent shows up on the day and says, \u2018You know, this is kind of dry. Wouldn\u2019t it be funnier if I came out in a superhero outfit?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Boone said the job there is to bite your tongue. But this is what leads to stilted banter. \u201cUnfortunately, there have been so many awkward moments that have been water-cooler conversation that award shows can get a bad rap.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Boone\u2019s favorite show is the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/movies\/la-ca-cm-tony-dave-boone20180610-story.html\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tony Awards<\/a>, for which he has been the head writer for the last 18 years. It\u2019s not because the participants understand performing live (though they do), but because theater people respect the word of the playwright. He fondly recalled the time James Earl Jones contacted him to ask about adding a comma to make a line read better.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/nenegooter\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Renee Gauthier,<\/a> who was one of two people writing material for presenters at the Globes, said the only person who didn\u2019t have any notes was Oprah Winfrey. When Koy criticized his writers, Gauthier, who had also submitted monologue jokes, told me her phone blew up with texts from outraged comics. \u201cI didn\u2019t think it was cool for that to be said about writers,\u201d she said. \u201cBut as a comedian I understand. He kind of freaked out and got in his head.\u201d She added: \u201cI forgive him.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ironically, part of the problem may have been a failure to listen to writers. Gauthier said they suggested Koy begin with a self-deprecating joke drawing attention to his status as a relative unknown next to Meryl Streep, Martin Scorsese and other major Hollywood figures in the room. Gauthier\u2019s version was something like: \u201cI know you don\u2019t know who I am, but I know exactly who you are.\u201d Echoing many of the writers I talked to, she said he would have been helped by poking fun at himself. \u201cJo Koy is known, but this is an A-list party. They aren\u2019t all your peers.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Then again, writers tend to understand their place in the pecking order better than star hosts. Koy might have been unknown to some in the audience, but as a stand-up, he regularly packs arenas. He opened by <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KvSHHnucouo\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">saying how thrilled he was<\/a> to be there, then added that it\u2019s \u201ca dream come true not just for me but everybody in here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Vilanch, asked what he would have done, said, \u201cThe whole monologue would have been: Who am I and why am I here?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">He also expressed sympathy for Koy, pointing to the shots of stars not laughing. \u201cDid he really need the reaction of Taylor Swift to swiftly bring condemnation upon his soul?\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/03\/04\/arts\/television\/oscars-host-monologue-writers.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the middle of struggling through the opening monologue of the Golden Globes in January, the comic Jo Koy did something unusual,<br \/><button class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/entertainment\/wanted-writers-for-awards-show-jokes-must-be-skilled-at-diplomacy\/04\/03\/2024\/\">Read More &rsaquo;<\/a><\/button><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"fifu_video_url":"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=82fIpQjOxmc","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22804"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22804"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22804\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22804"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22804"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22804"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}