Can you describe your festival contender, \u201cThe Substance\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\nIt\u2019s a feminist take on the body horror movie and quite different from \u201cRevenge,\u201d though there are also lots of similarities. It\u2019s a genre movie. Genre movies are a terrific way to talk about societal issues.<\/p>\n
What I like to do in my films is to create other universes: create my own world, with my own rules and codes, and push everything to an extreme in a very visceral way, in a way that\u2019s very true to who I am.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s why I wanted to become a director. I was very bored in real life and found watching movies absolutely fantastic. I could escape everyday life, which I felt quite unadjusted to.<\/p>\n
Will we be seeing extreme violence and gore in \u201cThe Substance\u201d as well?<\/strong><\/p>\nYes, but in a very different way, because the plot has nothing to do with \u201cRevenge.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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When it comes to violence in the movies, what I\u2019m interested in is not torture porn, or to show pain just for the sake of it. There\u2019s always a kind of distance and remove from the realism of the violence. My movies are set in very colorful, very visual settings, that look almost like Pop environments. The violence is so extreme that there are moments of humor in it. The excessive nature of the violence takes us away from a sense of this being total realism.<\/p>\n
Why are you drawn to extreme violence, a genre that maybe doesn\u2019t come naturally to women? And I don\u2019t mean that in a sexist way.<\/strong><\/p>\nA lot of our behaviors and attitudes are shaped by our environment, by what we had access to and were exposed to. Thanks to my grandfather, I discovered movies that I wasn\u2019t allowed to see at home with my parents because they were too violent.<\/p>\n
In my childhood and teenage years, I found everything that boys had access to more cool and fun. I was extremely affected by that, and felt this inequality from a very young age.<\/p>\n
There were stereotypes about what girls were allowed to do, what we had to look like, how we behaved: We had to be delicate, smile and be nice. \u201cThe Substance\u201d is very much about what, as a woman, we have to conform to and how it impacts our life socially.<\/p>\n
So your movies are, literally, about revenge?<\/strong><\/p>\nCompletely: revenge over the woman\u2019s body and the way it is perceived.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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A boy who walks around in the public space has a neutral body; no one will look at him. A woman in the public space is a different story: the way she\u2019s seen and viewed, the way she\u2019s treated if she behaves or dresses in this or that way, if she\u2019s this or that age.<\/p>\n
There\u2019s an extreme difference that creates enormous inequality and an extreme violence that we women are confronted with daily. The metaphorical violence of \u201cThe Substance\u201d reflects the violence of this everyday inequality, which women continue to face.<\/p>\n
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Fargeat\u2019s 2017 body-horror film \u201cRevenge\u201d had so much gore that the supply of fake blood had to be constantly replenished during its shooting. <\/span>Credit…<\/span>Neon, via Everett Collection<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\nYour movie coincided with a wave of sexual misconduct allegations against the Hollywood movie mogul Harvey Weinstein. Did the #MeToo scandal help the movie and its reception?<\/strong><\/p>\nAbsolutely, there was a crazy overlap between fiction and reality. \u201cRevenge\u201d was all of a sudden an incredible illustration of the news headlines. And the news headlines made it much more accessible to people who wouldn\u2019t otherwise have decoded the themes within it.<\/p>\n
Cannes has been slow to promote female talent: As recently as in 2012, there were zero women in the main competition. What are your thoughts?<\/strong><\/p>\nI am 100 percent in favor of affirmative action. You can\u2019t change 3,000 years of habits and inequality of access between men and women overnight \u2014 without an active desire to be proactive about reversing the status quo. The numbers are still unequal. The shift has to be forced through; otherwise things are just going to continue as they are.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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