{"id":47012,"date":"2025-04-03T00:18:44","date_gmt":"2025-04-03T04:18:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/entertainment\/with-the-studio-seth-rogen-and-evan-goldberg-grow-up-sort-of\/03\/04\/2025\/"},"modified":"2025-04-03T00:18:44","modified_gmt":"2025-04-03T04:18:44","slug":"with-the-studio-seth-rogen-and-evan-goldberg-grow-up-sort-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newssprinters.com\/index.php\/entertainment\/with-the-studio-seth-rogen-and-evan-goldberg-grow-up-sort-of\/03\/04\/2025\/","title":{"rendered":"With \u2018The Studio,\u2019 Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg Grow Up. Sort Of."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Amoeba Records, on Hollywood Boulevard, isn\u2019t the best place for someone of Seth Rogen\u2019s visibility to shop hassle-free. Located just blocks from the Chinese Theater, right by Dr. Phil\u2019s and Dr. Oz\u2019s stars on the Walk of Fame, there may be few places worse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But when Rogen wasn\u2019t being interrupted by his admiring bro-fans, who were legion \u2014 one wore toe shoes and a <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2020\/03\/02\/arts\/television\/dave-lil-dicky.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Lil Dicky<\/a> shirt; another cried \u2014 Amoeba was, however, a perfect place to dig through hundreds of vinyl soundtracks. It was the Tuesday before the Oscars, and we were there with Rogen\u2019s longtime creative partner, Evan Goldberg, to browse records and talk about their latest creation: \u201c<a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/25\/arts\/television\/the-studio-review-seth-rogen.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">The Studio<\/a>,\u201d an ambitious, celebrity-stuffed industry satire for Apple TV+ that premiered on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Rogen had been tasked by his wife to stock more jazz \u2014 appropriate given the new show\u2019s jazzy score and improvisational feel, shot mostly in long single takes. But as Goldberg and Rogen, who have been friends since they were teenagers, noted, their taste in music had really been formed by their love for <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">movies<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So we found ourselves first among the soundtracks, where highlights included a reissue of \u201cThe Three Amigos\u201d \u2014 \u201cOne of my favorite movies of all time,\u201d Rogen said \u2014 and two copies of the soundtrack for \u201cSoul Man,\u201d the 1986 comedy about a young white guy who pretends to be Black in order to get a Harvard scholarship. (Different times, as they say.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cDude, I was just telling some people at work about this yesterday!\u201d Goldberg said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">has<\/em> a good soundtrack,\u201d Rogen ventured.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Then, as if speaking with one mind, simultaneously:<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIs it racist to buy it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIs it racist to own this?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It was, in retrospect, a layered moment: In their hands, Goldberg and Rogen, who for decades have tested the boundaries of mainstream comedy, held a veritable object lesson on what <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">not<\/em> to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">By comparison, these two men and their early brand of sweet-but-raunchy stoner comedy had managed to evolve and survive the vicissitudes of time, taste and social attitude, even as not every joke \u2014 nor every career among <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2024\/film\/global\/james-franco-new-movie-hey-joe-lawsuit-seth-rogen-friendship-1236190559\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">their cohort<\/a> \u2014 survived with them.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In many ways, \u201cThe Studio,\u201d in which Rogen plays the beleaguered head of a fictional major studio, speaks to their evolution. They are no longer the young Canadian outsiders; they\u2019re powerful producers in their 40s with the ability to make and break dreams themselves. You just might not guess that from the shorts and sneakers or their other big joint venture: a high-end <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.houseplant.com\/pages\/our-story\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cannabis accessories company<\/a>. (Rogen remains one of Hollywood\u2019s most famous weed connoisseurs.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Staring down at the \u201cSoul Man\u201d soundtrack, Goldberg took a more determined tone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWe should get it,\u201d he said. \u201cHow much is it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s only $4,\u201d Rogen said. \u201cWe\u2019ve got to get<em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\"> <\/em>the \u2018Soul Man\u2019 soundtrack.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Goldberg nodded. \u201cJust so people ask, \u2018What is that?\u2019\u201d he said. \u201c<em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">Oh, I\u2019ll tell you what that [expletive] is \u2026<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Thus was the allegory of the \u201cSoul Man\u201d soundtrack completed: Buying it felt a little dumb, a little risky, but also hilarious. They snatched it up with glee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">GOLDBERG HAS IT GOOD.<\/strong> He gets to avoid a lot of the public-facing obligations that come with being Rogen. He openly cherishes the freedom. Rogen recently did a podcast interview in which the host said, \u201c\u2018I would be jealous if I was Evan.\u2019\u201d When Rogen relayed this at the record store, Goldberg said: \u201cThen you need therapy, my friend.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The many (many) celebrities in \u201cThe Studio,\u201d most playing versions of themselves, have so far helped insulate him from much of the buzz surrounding this latest endeavor, too, even as he and Rogen created the series and directed all 10 episodes. (Peter Huyck, Alex Gregory and Frida Perez are also creators.) The premiere alone includes Steve Buscemi, Bryan Cranston, Paul Dano, Martin Scorsese and Charlize Theron. The main cast includes Ike Barinholtz, Kathryn Hahn, Catherine O\u2019Hara and Chase Sui Wonders.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-6\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThere\u2019s so many famous actors in it that nobody wants to talk to me, and it\u2019s the best,\u201d Goldberg said. \u201cI\u2019m, like, the ninth person people want to talk to\u201d \u2014 a luxury given that his and Rogen\u2019s fingerprints have been among the most visible on American film comedy for almost 20 years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Relatively speaking, it wasn\u2019t that long ago that Rogen and Goldberg were high schoolers in Vancouver, British Columbia, already hard at work on the script based on their lives that would become \u201cSuperbad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Their careers took off fast. At 16, Rogen was cast in an open audition for the critically beloved NBC comedy <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/09\/26\/arts\/television\/freaks-and-geeks-25.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">\u201cFreaks and Geeks.\u201d<\/a> The show was canceled after one season, but Judd Apatow, an executive producer, took a liking to Rogen and helped get him writing, producing and acting gigs while Goldberg stayed in Canada for college.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Soon Goldberg joined Rogen in Los Angeles, where they landed writing jobs on Sacha Baron Cohen\u2019s \u201cDa Ali G Show.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Apatow liked Goldberg, too. \u201cAlways very kind and sweet,\u201d as Apatow described him later by phone \u2014 \u201cyou know, shocked by what Hollywood was.\u201d Under Apatow\u2019s wing, the two friends took writing and producing jobs as Rogen honed his acting. At the same time, Apatow was helping them develop \u201cSuperbad.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-7\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThey<em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\"> <\/em>spent years trying to figure out how to <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">improve<\/em> the script while looking for somebody to make the script,\u201d Apatow said. \u201cThey were relentless.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Then everything seemed to happen at once. \u201cKnocked Up,\u201d starring Rogen (with Katherine Heigl) and executive produced by him and Goldberg, debuted in June 2007 and grossed over $200 million. \u201cSuperbad\u201d followed in August and grossed nearly as much. As important, the young Canadians had been able to make \u201cSuperbad\u201d \u201cexactly as they wanted to make it,\u201d Apatow noted \u2014 no small feat for 20-somethings at a studio. \u201cIt is 100 percent what they envisioned.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In person, Goldberg and Rogen are an entertaining pair \u2014 \u201cdifferent, but not opposites,\u201d as David Gordon Green, who directed their film \u201cPineapple Express,\u201d described them later by phone. Physically, Goldberg is balder and leaner; Rogen is hirsute and softer. Goldberg was more reserved, Rogen more boisterous. They seemed many times to share a brain, though, constantly riffing and often landing on the same punchlines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">This harmony is one reason journalists rarely want to write about their partnership, they said. \u201cThe problem is we don\u2019t hate each other,\u201d Goldberg said. (Rogen: \u201cExactly.\u201d) \u201cWe don\u2019t have any beef, so it fundamentally is a little boring.\u201d (Rogen: \u201cFundamentally uninteresting.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Collaborators confirm that they do present an uncommonly harmonious front on set. There is little arguing, no good-cop-bad-cop.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-8\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThey have a sort of telekinesis, I think, and they trust each other,\u201d said Wonders, who plays a cutthroat junior executive in \u201cThe Studio.\u201d Barinholtz, who plays the studio\u2019s No. 2, put it this way: \u201cThey really make each other laugh, which is really important.\u201d He added, \u201cThat just makes us around them more excited.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Green, who himself regularly collaborates with longtime friends (including <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/06\/14\/arts\/television\/danny-mcbride-the-righteous-gemstones.html\" title=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Danny McBride<\/a>, who was in \u201cPineapple Express\u201d), recognized in Goldberg and Rogen the qualities needed to sustain a decades-long creative partnership. He described situations in which he and Rogen would be trying to crack a scene, and Goldberg would simply walk up quietly with a Post-it note, hand it to them and walk away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThey know when to challenge each other, push each other,\u201d Green said. \u201cAnd when to back off and when to support each other.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-9\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Outside Amoeba, as we toted our new LPs to our cars, we passed a ragged group of boomers sitting on the sidewalk. At first glance, they seemed homeless; it turned out they were lining up early for a Rick Springfield concert. They clocked Rogen immediately.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-10\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">One of the men flagged down Rogen for a selfie. Then he chased down Rogen for a better selfie. Rogen was as gracious as a person could be for someone who had already done this about 10 times that morning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Goldberg withdrew to a quiet remove, in what seems to be his default position at such times: pleasantly detached, mildly amused and visibly relieved to be the mostly invisible partner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">UNSURPRISINGLY, \u201cTHE STUDIO\u201d <\/strong>is as much a love letter as satire. Since Goldberg and Rogen were in their mid-20s, they have worked mostly inside the studio system, which, for all the jibes it weathers in the show, has been very kind to them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A running gag in \u201cThe Studio\u201d has Rogen\u2019s character, Matt, a devoted cinephile, struggling to make a Kool-Aid Man movie without completely losing his soul. (How many of Matt\u2019s fears reflect Rogen\u2019s own? \u201cI\u2019d say all of them,\u201d Rogen said.) But Goldberg and Rogen insist they aren\u2019t so much skewering the industry as writing what they know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThe truth is, they probably would make a Kool-Aid movie,\u201d Rogen said later that week at the headquarters of their production company, Point Grey Pictures. Inside sat a framed still from a \u201cSimpsons\u201d episode Goldberg and Rogen wrote (\u201cHomer the Whopper\u201d). The restrooms were labeled \u201cwashrooms.\u201d The conference room smelled like weed.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-11\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWe thank God we\u2019re in a position where we don\u2019t have to make the Kool-Aid movie,\u201d Rogen added. \u201cBut the funny thing about studio executives is they do. And that is something that just became entertaining to us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Hunger for the types of comedies Goldberg and Rogen made in their youth has fluctuated over time; they have thrived by adapting. Exhibit A is Point Grey. The company\u2019s portfolio is diverse, claiming dozens of successful movies and TV shows, not all of them straightforward comedies. Many embrace other genres, like the Amazon anti-superhero series \u201cThe Boys,\u201d the Hulu docudrama \u201cPam &amp; Tommy\u201d and the Peacock true-crime docuseries \u201cPaul T. Goldman.\u201d In 2023, they made \u201cTeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem,\u201d their most significant foray into a pre-existing franchise.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cFifteen years ago, we would\u2019ve made an R-rated high school movie,\u201d Rogen said. \u201cAnd now the version of the high school movie that we are able to make for theaters currently, that is popular and people like, is \u2018Ninja Turtles.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Such large-scale productions help them continue to produce indies, they said, though both were quick to note that they love the big stuff, too. They aren\u2019t snobs: They like comics; they like explosions. As James Weaver, the president of Point Grey, noted, even a movie as over-the-top as \u201cThis Is the End\u201d can be deeply personal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cEven though it is an apocalypse movie where a demon with a giant penis comes in in the third act,\u201d he said, the movie is \u201cat its inception about old friends and new friends.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThe Studio\u201d reinforces this point repeatedly, though with pointed self-awareness. \u201cAll movies are art,\u201d Matt tells a group of judgmental doctors in one episode. \u201cYou don\u2019t get to pick which movies are art.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-12\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The scene serves as a kind of thesis to the show and to Goldberg and Rogen\u2019s career \u2014 particularly given that Matt is scrambling to finish the trailer for a satirical zombie movie \u2026 in which the zombie-making infection is spread by diarrhea.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWe\u2019ve decided to participate in it rather than lament it too much,\u201d Rogen said of the big shifts that have left many in Hollywood scrambling. \u201cTo us it\u2019s not a drag. It\u2019s just like: The industry changes and evolves, and you must change and evolve.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/26\/arts\/television\/the-studio-seth-rogen-evan-goldberg.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Amoeba Records, on Hollywood Boulevard, isn&rsquo;t the best place for someone of Seth Rogen&rsquo;s visibility to shop hassle-free. 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